I heard this theory on TWIT not too long ago It is entirely possible that Intel promised OEMs like Apple, Dell, and ASUS that their upcoming Core i9 would fit well inside of a power envelop that Intel simply could not deliver. Intel provided a number for base frequency, assuming Apple did their jobs properly they'd have their own numbers on how the I9 performs and would have a cooling solution capable of handling it, just like every other Core I9 laptop.īut hey, let's not let user experience and performance get in the way of design and form. I'm saying that it is up to Apple to design and TEST their own products. You need a completely different Boost than what Intel uses because of that.ĭon't put words in my mouth, no I'm not saying that. You can do that in Desktop enviroments, maybe server but not in Mobile where you have a very close thermal budget due to size (and noise) Restrictions. So you're saying that the throtteling is perfectly normal and to be expected?īecause Intel said that their TDP is useless from the getgo and can't be trusted? You are deflecting blame from one of the Partys that is responsible for this mess and actually defending Apple! Its just a theory, but a theory that fits available data.
If that info ends up being not accurate, then you are going to end up with problems when you have all these tooled chassis sitting around waiting to have Intels latest space heater plopped into them If that is what happened or not doesn’t actually matter, what does matter is realizing that an OEM can’t design a laptop without info from the CPU manufacturer. We either shift blame fully to all of those OEMs, or we can say, “You know what? Maybe Intel might have some share in this?” Notice a similarity? Many of them are relatively compact. My opinion is that those laptops would’ve been better off with the 8750H or 8850H. The fact that an MSI GT-series laptop sees very high temperatures at 3.8GHz should already be a red flag for anyone wanting to put the same chip in smaller machines. It’s such a silly decision to put such a hot CPU inside a compact laptop without ensuring adequate cooling.
It’ll run far hotter than the cooling system is able to handle and as a consequence, that CPU will have to throttle back and may even slowly damage itself over time. However, manufacturers putting them inside compact machines are signing a death sentence.
Intel made a CPU that was so hot that it was really only suitable for big beefy desktop replacements. Likely now made worse due to the increased power demandsĮurocom Q8 - Struggles to maintain base while playing The Witcher 3ĪSUS Zenbook Pro - Just manages to maintain base but at close to 100 degrees as a consequence They aren’t MacBook-level expensive but they’re still expensive, some of which are close.Īlienware 15 R4 - Struggles to outperform an 8750H How many of those(x number you need to give me) are billed as premium and cost as much as the macbook? So how many others throttle to below base clock? Nobody forced Apple to create this thing and nobody forced them to sell it to customers knowing it wasn't working correctly.
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Intels CPU is behaving normally, the fact giant gaming laptops can't keep the I9 cool should have been a hint and yet the thin & light MacBook Pro I9 still exists. It's up to Apple to ensure the product they designed and are selling is tested properly. Now let's say that Maclaren had been using this tyre on the 540c for years with zero issues so they decided to start using it on the P1 too but suddenly tyres started exploding. Let's imagine for a second that Toyo made a tyre and this tyre had a spec sheet that rated it as good for a top speed of 180mph and a max torque of 750n/m.
It's very simple, if you cram 2 extra cores into a cooling solution that wasn't designed to handle it without changing anything about said cooling solution then you cannot realistically expect the new product to perform the same as the old product. Refer to Datasheet for thermal solution requirements. Thermal Design Power (TDP) represents the average power, in watts, the processor dissipates when operating at Base Frequency with all cores active under an Intel-defined, high-complexity workload.
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